There are good reasons to have a gun in each caliber. compare those energies to a .223 52 grain HP at about 2900 fps - roughly 970 ft lbs at the muzzle or a 63 grain SP (if your gun will shoot it properly) at about 2850 fps - about 1136 ft lbs at the muzzle. The 223 is definitely more than capable for deer. Which means it can shoot faster and harder than the .223. Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172, September 2, 2013 in SASS Wire Saloon. And I still lust for that '99 in .243.... you need them both, the 223 for near windless days, the 243 for days with a breeze..... Just looking at the reloading specs and seems the .243 with a 90 grain bullet is a little faster than the .223. Badlands Bar 3, Oakwood Outlaws, CVV, LSFSC, Old Fort Parker, Fearsome, Fearless, and Positively Gorgeous, Canadian River Regulators, Greene County Regulators. produces about half the felt recoil of the .243 Win. It was developed in 1957 for an experimental rifle known as the AR-15. a Win mdl 70 FW in .243 will do for most purposes these days! I was never impressed with the 5.56 cartridge for a military rifle, but then again McNamara and his whiz kids didn't ask me. J. Jagdflieger. By contrast, six of Federal’s 17 .243 Win. We work hard to bring the best gun discussion! by contrast achieves only about 1,400 foot-pounds of energy by throwing a 75-grain projectile 2,900 fps. Generally speaking, a heavier bullet travelling faster will give you a better chance of putting down an animal. 25 Aug 2007 #5. We offer a 100% Authenticity Guarantee on all products sold on our website. So a .223 Remington round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 1250 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .243 Winchester round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 1950 pounds over the same one foot distance. All rights reserved.

Added powder increases velocity and energy, which translates to what the Internet calls “knock-down power” (more on that later). Feels like a BB gun. The AR-15 chambered in .223 Rem. Still shoots sub MOA, IMHO better than those 2 pea shooters! Haven't fired it in years (at least 25, since I got into CAS.

There's a lot of debate as to what the best deer rifle is, but the .243 definitely has it going on. I've had a Browning BAR in .243 since '73, Love the cartridge.

They will share and not exactly sure if it should be a .223 or .243. That is to say, .223 Remington bullets travel 3.6 times the speed of a 737 airplane at cruising speed, while .243 Winchester bullets travel 3.6 times that same speed. Any replies to confuse me more are welcome. Completing the CAPTCHA proves you are a human and gives you temporary access to the web property. Hit it broadside, and somehow its guts were sticking out of its back (don't as me, I've never seen anything like it).

This is why the military uses it. Been a good rifle (carbine) but I very quickly came to my senses and ditched the scope in favor of a Lyman receiver and Marble's Sheard front sights. I like that .223 is not as overbore as .243. As Chuck Hawks notes in his great recoil table, the .223 Rem. I thought it might kick being so light, but recoil is no worse if as bad as a lightly loaded shotgun.

Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. For many hunters, the .223 Rem.

I like having the extra power and range for medium-sized animals, and I don’t see much downside for varmint hunting.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. .243 will do a better job with the heavier bullets and the .223 will be better with lighter bullets. But I have always been intrigued with the .243 Winchester and it's ballistics. Have used both, now my go to rifle for varmint calling is a 22-250. If you ever want to shoot something bigger than coyotes I'd get the .243. ED: Granted, my knowledge of both calibers is limited. Well, too old to hunt. Esse quam videri . Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. Outdoor Life may receive financial compensation for products purchased through this site. Both guns are plenty accurate. .243 is one of the most popular rounds for deer hunting in Texas. Almost blew it in half. To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. Don't know why the quote/multiquote function is not working for me today. As hunting season approaches every year, we look toward our gun cabinets and wonder if we're really using the best deer rifle. load will reliably kill a deer out to 500 yards. The .243 Win. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. But since I was on the brown boot army and issued an .30-06 rifle, I never had an occasion to shoot the M-14 nor the M-16. I've shot a 25-06 since before it was a factory cartridge (called a .25 Neider). bullet. Es handelt sich lediglich um eine auf das kleinere Kaliber eingezogene .308 Winchester.. Verwandte Patronen.308 Winchester (1951) – .308 in (7,620 mm).260 Remington – .264 in (6,5 mm); 7mm-08 Remington – .284 in (7,0 mm) can push a 75-grain projectile about 3,300 feet per second at the muzzle and achieves about 1,800 foot-pounds of energy. Kentucky Colonels. Wish I had never sold that little Carbine that I had back. cartridges are currently listed as available. Maybe I should. I know I'm going to get bombarded with answers but hey, I asked. .223 vs .243 Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by Florida2Texas, Feb 7, 2009. (about 1690 ft lbs at the muzzle) And while I prefer a .308 for elk I have used a 100 grain .243 bullet at 2800 fps on deer with success. I would chose the .243 if varmint hunting was a 20-40 round per day event. “Shootability” is a broad term we’re using to mean “how available is this caliber and how comfortable is it to shoot?”. The .223 ammo should be more available in normal times however. Your IP: Again, the above is for comparative information purposes only, and you should consult the exact ballistics for the particular .223 Remington or .243 Winchester cartridge you're looking at purchasing. I have to ask however if you are ever going to decide to hunt with it? Shootability You can find lever, bolt, and semi-auto rifles chambered in both actions.

Although the original question was for varmints. It's very possible that you'll get the bug to go hunting in the future,and if you do-the .243 will be your best bet then.

The ideal coyote hunting cartridge is flat shooting, highly accurate, and won’t ruin pelts. That did it. Performance & security by Cloudflare, Please complete the security check to access.

The ammunition is more expensive, but it’s just as common (especially these days), and I can find rifles in lots of different actions and from many different manufacturers. I like that .243 has substantially more ft. lbs of energy. All types of shooting, hunting, fishing, camping. Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Next > Feb 7, 2009 #1 . As illustrated in the chart, .223 Remington rounds - on average - achieve a velocity of about 3150 feet per second (fps) while .243 Winchester rounds travel at a velocity of 3180 fps. Unlock additional features, and fewer ads while browsing. Know what you mean about the Marlin 30.30 Hardpan. Shooting, Casting Bullets, Horses and Horseshoeing. is a necked-down .308 Win., so it holds nearly twice as much powder as the .223 Rem. as well. I must say that I have never compared them on paper or at the range so anything I say can be. Generally speaking, the higher the muzzle energy, the higher the stopping power. As a rule of thumb, when it comes to hunting, muzzle energy is what many hunters look at when deciding on what caliber of firearm / ammunition to select. Geschichte.

can reach out even further. I guess I’ll just have to own both. Their health and their love.I love The people I have gotten to meet in sass and the ones that have just talked to on the wire.I do like to shoot and pick on people at the shoot.I love the hugs I get and the ones I will get when I meet some on you people. are synonymous with both deer and varmint hunting, so we decided to pit them against each other to see who comes out on top.

I've got two Savage 99s in that caliber and one 243. Furthermore, the muzzle energy of a .223 Remington round averages out to 1250 ft-lb, while a .243 Winchester round averages out to about 1950 ft-lb. Oct 26, 2020 #65 mibighntr Junior Member. .22-250 Remington.

I also came across a Remington 660 in .243 about three years ago.

isn’t uncomfortable, but compared to the .223 Rem., it’s snappy (depending on your rifle, of course). You may need to download version 2.0 now from the Chrome Web Store. • We offer cheap ammo and bulk ammo deals on the most popular ammo calibers. 25 Aug 2007 #5. True “knock-down power” depends on your bullet’s construction and minimum velocity, your cartridge, and your barrel length. The 223 is not legal for hunting in many states. Where before this year you could find .223 Rem. The .223 ammo should be more available in normal times however. For varmints and such, the 223 is likely the better choice, if for no other reason than economics, it is much less expensive to shoot or to load for.

223/5.56 varments of almost any type , if you want to save the pelts , do NOT use the BT bullets, 243 is ok for varments , also the smallest cal , I will recomend for game , the 80 + grain for game, Big Sage, you are a bigger man than I am. I have both but I shoot the 223 most of the time for varmints and for my deer hunting.The bullets I shoot are really nasty for head shots on deer. I'd be sure that any rifle you get has a fast enough rifling twist to handle a 100 gr. That extends the maximum effective range all the way to 350 yards, depending on your velocity at the muzzle. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .223 Remington vs .243 Winchester ammo rounds. I'll also add the 25'06 for consideration. The decision for which round is better for a given application should be made with complete information, and this article simply serves as a comparative guide, not the final say. I am taking my kids 10 and 11 hunting this year and going to buy them there first rifle.

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